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Poll: Still Going to JavaOne?

08.23.2010
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For fear of being too sensationalist or sounding biased, I didn't use the 'B-Word' in my headline, but I'll say it now: Is anyone planning to boycott JavaOne because of recent events?  That's the sentiment that I wanted to gauge based on the reaction to today's news that Oracle CEO Larry Ellison would be delivering the keynote.

I'm not sure how many Android developers attend JavaOne these days (I'm sure Google I/O is a more beneficial conference for them), but if there are any that plan to attend JavaOne this year, I'm sure some of them are rethinking how they'd like to spend their $1,800 dollars, assuming they haven't already spent it on the Early Bird Special.

                                  

I'm sure most people who vote in this poll probably weren't going to JavaOne in the first place, but it will be interesting to see how many considered going, but won't anymore.  I do think that there are going to be some great sessions and I know that the Java community still supports the presenters, who are great beneficiaries to the Java and open source communities.  However, it's understandable that many developers won't want to cast a vote for Oracle with their pocketbook

What are your plans for the JavaOne 2010 conference?

Comments

Jacek Furmankiewicz replied on Mon, 2010/08/23 - 10:27am

Most of the good stuff happening in Java in the last few years were not really from the core JDK/JVM features (with the exception of the fine performance work that has been done in Java). Most of the really interesting stuff that has helped to improve Java greatly (e.g. MigLayout, Lombok, etc.) have happened in the OSS ecosystem...which looks like it's not that well appreciated any more. Hence, no plans on my end to attend JavaOne..plus, everything they announce there never comes through (JWebPane anyone?)

Chris Ainsley replied on Mon, 2010/08/23 - 12:10pm

Sun's handling of Java from a legal perspective represented all that was right with the industry. Having a bruiser figuratively elbow his way into the party with a couple of lawyer friends then start charging guests retrospectively an entrance fee seems like a sure-fire way to stop a party. I won't be attending but I hope the keynote addresses the legitimate concerns that the platform is going to start becoming a hunting ground for cherry picking patent lawsuits.

Jay Huang replied on Mon, 2010/08/23 - 12:53pm

Adobe Air will be on Android by the end of this year and it is already supported by Intel AppUp program.  It's more likely that it will be supported by Chrome OS too.  With Oracle suing Google, it's probably unlikely that Chrome OS will support Java.  We really haven't seen much of Java news 7 months after it's under Oracle. No matter what, one thing that we don't want to see is "JavaOne = JavaGone".  I'm hoping that Oracle will make some positive announcements for the Java community.

Robert Glover replied on Mon, 2010/08/23 - 3:07pm

I attended two Java One Conferences in the last 90's.  The first was importants towards (back then) feeling comfortable with java.  The second seemed a waste of time because by then I knew enough java to feel confident in my ability to use it professionally.   I remember watching Sun's java advocate, or whatever her title was.  She did not know java and had never written a program in java.  With the wisdom of the years I'm using my spare time now to learn Objective C and PHP.  It will be interesting, from afar,  to hear what Ellison says about java.  My guess is that he will do some of the things to java that should have been done to it  ten years ago.  For example,  improving the javadoc.  It's interesting to compare Objective C's "collections" classes to java's "collection" classes.  Objective C has 3:   Dictionary,  Array, and List.  By contrast,  java has hundreds.   Why couldn't java have been designed with 3 like Objective C?  Why does java get progressively harder to use instead of progressivly easier to use?   Why is PHP available from every ISP,  but java is not available from any ISP's except for a handful who charge much more than a PHP ISP charges?  Stop the insanity.  The java emperor has no clothes.

Reza Rahman replied on Mon, 2010/08/23 - 6:48pm

Mitchell,

I've always respected the well-researched content you post on this web-site but frankly I can't count this one as one of your better posts.  JavaOne is much bigger than Oracle and there are many small vendors, independents and Java enthusiasts that are involved in JavaOne in many ways. Politisizing JavaOne over an issue that few really understands and is hardly that black/white hurts these people much more than it will hurt Oracle or Larry Ellison (in fact, I would bet they see JavaOne as a money-losing liability that they inherited from Sun and would like to get rid of anyway).

Please try to keep such factors in mind in the future...

Kindest regards,

Reza

Kevin Dorff replied on Tue, 2010/08/24 - 9:53am

I probably would have gone to JavaOne if they'd kept it in the May / June timeframe that it has been in for YEARS, but moving it to mid-September conflicts with a previous commitment. Oh well!

David Sachdev replied on Tue, 2010/08/24 - 10:11am

It has been a while since I've attended a JavaOne conference, but the uncertainty around the conference even happening at the beginning of the year took away any desire to attend or speak this year.  I've always seen the JavaOne conference as a bit of a reward for technical staff, and felt that there are better values out there to really educate your staff.  I hope that JavaOne remains fun.

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