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Daily Dose - Rymer's "Future of Java"

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John Rymer of Forrester Research blogged today about his research and predictions for the future of Java SE and the Java ecosystem.  "Java's future in the enterprise is alive and well but limited," he said.  "Oracle's plans so far fail to address Java platforms' inherent complexity, which remains Java's Achilles' heel in head-to-head competition with Microsoft's.NET."  However, Rymer believes that Oracle is now determined to direct its innovation in core Java towards the needs of its enterprise customers, alienating "Java alpha geeks" who he expects will take their energy to places like Apache.  Rymer also notes that less students are learning Java as their first language.  As Java becomes less of a client-side language, Rymer expects that "over time, developers will begin to view Java as a server-side language for enterprises — like COBOL."  It's an interesting read, but is it too pessimistic?

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Andy Leung replied on Tue, 2011/01/25 - 12:28pm

Thanks for the news!

No idea where that guy got the news from "As Java becomes less of a client-side language", really? I don't see that. In fact, because of the Java wrapper tool in Mac and MacStore now is opened, Java is gaining even more ground because Java developers can sell their apps as though they are native apps on both MacStore and Intel's AppUp. So I guess it's just him not knowing Java well enough.

Jay Huang replied on Tue, 2011/01/25 - 6:45pm in response to: Andy Leung

What is the Java wrapper tool that you mentioned ?  Have you successfully sumbit a Java app to Mac Store  ?

Andy Leung replied on Thu, 2011/01/27 - 10:46am in response to: Jay Huang

If you have a Mac, download Xcode and then you will find a tool called Jar Bundler or something, let me send you the site:

Jay Huang replied on Thu, 2011/01/27 - 1:08pm in response to: Andy Leung

Thanks Andy. I know Xcode and have been using Jar_Bundler and Mac package utility to package Java apps. I'm curious if Mac store would accept it even if you package it as Mac package simply because it's a Java app.

Mark Haniford replied on Wed, 2011/01/26 - 2:26pm

Java never did take off as a client-side language, and it never will be even if the past technical issues are corrected.

Michael Urban replied on Thu, 2011/01/27 - 5:20pm

"over time, developers will begin to view Java as a server-side language for enterprises"

John Rymer didn't get the memo about the Web application replacing the traditional desktop application apparently. Now that the vast majority of applications are written for the Web, ALL commonly used languages with the exception of C / C++, Javascript, and Flash, are primarily server-side languages.

Allan Howward replied on Tue, 2011/09/20 - 1:12pm

John Rymer contributes to Forrester's coverage of business rules platforms, Microsoft SharePoint, and complex event processing. -Julia Timonina

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