Javalobby - Comments for "Star This! Tell Google You Want Java/Groovy in GAE"

1176 already!Java & Groovy -

voituk — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 04:18:36 -0400

1176 already!

Java & Groovy - The first !

So far only Python seems to

catmedia — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:31:34 -0400

So far only Python seems to be part of GAE.

Not sure, if that means a great future, but if they manage to add more (important) languages like Java, then it certainly should have a much brighter future, then let's say Apple's iPhone SDK ;-)

Believe it or not, there are

okidoky — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:11:05 -0400

Believe it or not, there are still some shops, perhaps Microsoft oriented shops, that still think Java is an unusable pig. Some still actually think that Java is interpreted which automatically makes it very slow. People that run those companies often get their opinions from the passionate individuals that work for them. A couple of wrong misinformed and ignorant vibes, and next thing you know you have no hope in hell selling any ideas that involve the word Java. People are emotional beings, which often overrides any objectivity.

Us, the Java community should have a prime elite showcase with demos, screen shots, and links, to help sell Java. I think that after all these years, we still need this. I know there are places like the swing connection, but which ones are active, look good, and are impressive. We should have our own show case.

done. I really wish that

im-james — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:31:33 -0400

done.

I really wish that they support Java in one form or another. Scalability is such a hard thing that in the end you spend more time thinking about scalability issues than thinking about features for the site!

I see a great future for Google App Engine!

There's a request for full

xymor — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:54:41 -0400

There's a request for full jvm support here which would be much better having full support of all java technology stack.

Thanks for posting this

daveklein — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:25:07 -0400

Thanks for posting this Rick! After struggling in 2nd or 3rd place on the list for the past few days it's now number one! I'm sure that's due, in large part, to the exposure here on DZone.

I was assuming that when

okidoky — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:25:50 -0400

I was assuming that when we're talking about Java, we mean full SE Java, unless stated otherwise. When someone refers to the micro edition of Java, they should have said J2ME, not just "Java".

It's really high time, that we see Java everywhere and do away with J2ME for devices where feasible. With modern gadgets made suitable to show eye candy, they probably have enough horsepower and memory for Java to be perfectly feasible.

Again, I'm thinking of modern mobiles to be pocket desktops.

Mike, I'm afraid that is not

aalmiray — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:38:56 -0400

Mike, I'm afraid that is not the case. Groovy requires (at the moment) a full Java SE runtime, that is why it can't run on Google's Android. So if Google decides to use Dalvik for GAE then Groovy won't run but Java will, get it? Same thing may happen with other prominent JVM languages (Scala, JRuby, Jython), stating that Java is supported in Xyz doesn't mean that those languages are fully supported too. I understand that (at least) Groovy is not on your popular side but there are many others who would like to see it o n GAE, specially as we consider it a complement/enhancement for Java (the language) and not a replacement. My $0.02

Why is Groovy being put at

okidoky — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:23:30 -0400

Why is Groovy being put at the same level as Java. Include Java, yes, but why does it automatically have to be Java/Groovy? Java is big and is everywhere. Groovy is an arbitrary language like the other JVM languages. When you get Java, you automatically get Groovy, because Groovy compiles to Java (under the hood).

It's the same as saying. "We want Java/JPython support".

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