Javalobby - Comments for "Google's Android: Is this what "fragmentation" means?"

jwenting wrote:Google's

mo74395 — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:14:18 -0400

jwenting wrote:

Google's intent to fracture the market and next use their position of power to force their will on that market has been known for years.

+1. Yeah, this is the divide and conquer strategy used by a heavyweight like MSFT, or Google.

jwenting wrote:

Were they called "Microsoft" they'd have been dragged into courst for it by some activist judge or politician, but they're the fair haired boys of the US 'democratic' party (Google's bosses are rather extreme leftists) so they're left alone.

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To paraphrase Kramer, you're *way* *way* off. Not sure where you're from but the states has tilted to the extreme right, just past McCarthyism recently. Except replace commies with islamofascists or some other Fauxism.

Let's refresh: MSFT got off on it's antitrust case some years back with a shift in the political winds with a slap on the wrist. The judge that was cutting them to shreds and embarrassingeven Gates the whiz, was replaced IIRC. They were about to be checked like IBM. But this administration is very business friendly. Tax breaks for oil companies making billion dollar profits? No problem.

As far as "activist" judges, let's check the facts on that, starting fromthe supreme court:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/14/opinion/14mon3.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

So Google shouldn't worry, and neither should you.

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Google's intent to fracture

jwenting — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:27:21 -0400

Google's intent to fracture the market and next use their position of power to force their will on that market has been known for years.

After all, they've been doing it for years in every market they operate in. Search engines, online advertising, blogging, 'social networking', etc. etc., they get big by buying up some small players and then start pushing their technology through their other channels, forcing everyone else to submit and adapt or be left a fringe player at best.

In my limited experience,

mt79448 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:44:10 -0400

In my limited experience, most of the limitations with use of J2ME are not imposed by J2ME but by carriers and manufacturers., and most of those can be removed if you get the cooperation of the carrier.

fb43282 wrote:Android looks

rick — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:04:18 -0400

fb43282 wrote:

Android looks to be better than Brew and J2ME, so it doesn't surprise me that Qualcomm would be FUDding it. But Brew isn't a wish-it-was-Java product. It was an attempt to provide an end-to-end solution, from developer APIs to provisioning, with good performance and decent access to phone features, all things that J2ME failed at miserably.

Your points about Brew are fair and welltaken, Fred. I hadn't thought of it that way, but on consideration you seem to be correct. To me, it seemed an awful lot like Java, bit not quite - a "close, but no cigar" situation. That's not to say that J2ME was a paradigm of excellence :)

Android looks to be better

fb43282 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:49:20 -0400