Javalobby - Comments for "Spring vs. EJB: Conclusive Job Trends"

:-) Good point, Jeroen.

geertjan — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:16:39 -0400

:-) Good point, Jeroen.

WOW, a long established

jwenting — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:28:44 -0400

WOW, a long established technology sees a stable job market while a newcomer sees growth.

What a world shattering conclusion.

One could also note that

Andy Gibson — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:42:21 -0400

One could also note that Spring (and .net) has not really detracted from EJB's numbers either. One possible conclusion is that many jobs are including both items in job descriptions. Either that or Java demand is going through the roof to support the number of jobs for EJB & the jobs for Spring vs. the jobs for Spring & EJB.

I think Spring is also seeing some use outside of J2EE, I've used it for a couple of little command line apps, one of which I used to demonstrate the benefits of IoC. I haven't seen any other IoC containers work quite so well (or at all) in Java SE. It appears Web Beans is going to be J2EE only also which is a shame.

I think that the Spring

breidecker — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:49:35 -0400

I think that the Spring numbers are understated. Try this search string in the Indeed job trends and you will see even a more dramatic rise in Spring jobs. I have the number of Spring vs EJB jobs as equal and possibly even a slight lead for Spring. Of course you have to have faith that these kind of comparison actaully have some value.

(java and spring) or ("spring framework"), (ejb or ejb2 or ejb3)

Could also conclude that if

wb110497 — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:20:26 -0400

Could also conclude that if you are delving into spring you know about EJB. Therefore, spring would be an EJB++ developer. The point is that EJB3 has gone to JPA ala ibatis, hibernate now getting them to bind with your application a lot of shops are starting to use spring with annotations. Need JMX capabilities add spring annotations of managedbean and a few configs and your done, and so forth.

It's very interesting to

jsugrue — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:54:56 -0400

It's very interesting to see. Another point you could take from this is that people are finding use for Spring outside of the typical J2EE scenarios, which would be very good news.