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DevOps Evolution and The Phoenix Project

03.31.2013
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Date: March 29, 2013

By: Aaron Delp and Brian Gracely

Description: Aaron, Brian and Nick Weaver talk with Gene Kim (@RealGeneKim - Author, Researcher, Speaker, DevOps Enthusiast) about his new book, ‘The Phoenix Project’, and the evolution of DevOps.

Topic 1 – Gene just released a new book, The Phoenix Project, that puts DevOps in a practical context. Tell us about the book and the type of feedback you've gotten from readers?


Topic 2 – Lots of talk about DevOps these days. Are there constraints regarding where this is viable? (eg. Can it apply to a Windows shop, or an IT shop that primarily uses packaged software)? Can this apply to a traditional IT shop, or only to companies when IT is their product/business?


Topic 3 – I've mentioned before that today's Data Centers are 21st Century "bits factories" (http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/cloud-computing-enterprise/what-21st-century-bit-factories-can-learn-from-20th-century-widget-factories/). You seem to draw a similar analogy in the book. Do yo find that analogy useful, or do IT people tend to ignore it because it seems "non technical"?


Topic 4 – In previous writings, you've talked about "The Three Ways". These are higher levels conceptualizations. Can you put these into some practical applications/tools/use-cases that people trying to grasp DevOps can get started with?

Topic 5 – DevOps has been a topic that's led to NoOps, OpsDev and various other debates that generally center around "who is now in charge" or "where does the power shift" discussions. Change is scary to a lot of people. What successes can you share from people you speak with?
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